by
Emmanuel Legrand
“How
does the music get into the advert?” This was the simple question
(and a few others) that Sat Bisla, founder of A&R Worldwide and
organiser of Los Angeles trade show MusExpo, put to a panel of
synchronisation experts from both sides of the Atlantic, during the
recent c/o pop convention, that took place in Cologne August 20-22. His
panel included Natasha
Baldwin,
London-based Group President for Creative and Marketing at music
publishing indie Imagem Music Group, Hans
Brouwer,
CEO of Dutch music agency MassiveMusic, Kyle
Hopkins,
Head of Music Supervision at Microsoft & Xbox in San Francisco,
and Nadin
Lefkeli,
Music & Business Director of German music agency White Horse
Music. Below is a compilation of the different points that they
raised during the session at c/o pop.
1
- The future is mobile
Duh! Sounds obvious, but so far little attention has been put in the mobile space when it comes to syncs, said Microsoft's Hopkins who believes that the explosion of wearable devices "means that we will see more and more activity in that space, because it is the most rapidly changing in the technology space at the moment." He added, "The mobile space is of huge interest because it is exploding. We will have an ability to do more in the music space on mobile device and it is evolving very quickly. And the great thing is that there are no set precedents or rules."
2 - Artists are on board...
The time when bands were turning their back on synchs sees to be a thing of the past. Aside from a couple of acts (Tom Waits, among a few others) who would not lend their music to synchs, most acts are now open to opportunities in that area. Some will draw the line on the type of projects, especially when it comes to advertising, but many bands, according to Imagem's Baldwin enjoy the idea of having their music in TV shows or movies. Baldwin took the example of a US rock band that was totally opposed to music placements a few years ago but eventually changed its views (could it be that the selling of their recordings stalled?). "I have seen of a lot of bands, some of them very high profile, changing their attitudes [towards synchs],” said Baldwin. “The perception has shifted a lot.”
Duh! Sounds obvious, but so far little attention has been put in the mobile space when it comes to syncs, said Microsoft's Hopkins who believes that the explosion of wearable devices "means that we will see more and more activity in that space, because it is the most rapidly changing in the technology space at the moment." He added, "The mobile space is of huge interest because it is exploding. We will have an ability to do more in the music space on mobile device and it is evolving very quickly. And the great thing is that there are no set precedents or rules."
2 - Artists are on board...
The time when bands were turning their back on synchs sees to be a thing of the past. Aside from a couple of acts (Tom Waits, among a few others) who would not lend their music to synchs, most acts are now open to opportunities in that area. Some will draw the line on the type of projects, especially when it comes to advertising, but many bands, according to Imagem's Baldwin enjoy the idea of having their music in TV shows or movies. Baldwin took the example of a US rock band that was totally opposed to music placements a few years ago but eventually changed its views (could it be that the selling of their recordings stalled?). "I have seen of a lot of bands, some of them very high profile, changing their attitudes [towards synchs],” said Baldwin. “The perception has shifted a lot.”
3
- ...and they think strategically
Most of the bands are extremely strategic in their approach to music placements, said Imagem's Baldwin. A good case in point is Daft Punk, who are quite business savvy and who are careful in their decision-making process. “We worked extremely closely with Columbia [Daft Punk label in the US],” said Baldwin, whose company administers Daft Punk's publishing catalogue. “We refused all synchs while album was out, and when sales started to go down, we started taking synch requests. For small bands it is a different situation. They want to be able to build their profile. There is a strategic process around all bands.”
4
- Synchs never come too early in a career
Don't
think that because you don't have a recording deal you can't get
placements. Brouwer's MassiveMusic, told the story of how he spotted
on MySpace (remember?) a young Danish artist named Agnes Obel, who
had a few hundred followers and a couple of songs on display. Brouwer
liked a song he heard, eventually contacted the artist and one of her
songs ended up in a T-Mobile ad, even though the artist was yet to
record her first album.
Similarly,
Imagem's Baldwin noted an increasing interest from brands and
agencies for artists at a very early stage of their development. “In
UK,” she said, “we see acts that get B-listed on [BBC] Radio 1
and we get phone calls from agencies who say they want to work with
these bands. The same happens in the Middle East. There are a lot of
British expats and what happens in the UK charts has an impact
there.”
5
- It is hard to tailor hits for brands
Clients
– ad agencies and brands – sometimes entertain high expectations
about the kind of music that they would like to use. To a point that
some clients do ask for hits, but not existing hits, they want
tailored tracks that will eventually become hits by being associated
with brands. And that's not realistic, says MassiveMusic's Brouwer.
“Brands come to us and say can you write a hit,” said, “but if
we could write hits wouldn't we actually be doing it for someone else
than a brand?”
6
- Expect direct and honest discussions on rates
The
panel agreed that the attitude of music supervisors and brands has
changed with regards to budgets and are now more open and direct
about the budgets that they have. Knowing exactly what pot is
available can save a lot of time for each party involved. “Honest
conversation dialogue with all parties is fundamental in the
process,” said Imagem's Baldwin. “What you want to hear is 'I
have X amount of dollars, and I want this band, so how can we find a
middle ground'.” Based on these premises, deals are easier and
quicker to be sealed. But as White Horse's Lefkeli noted, there will
always be people who will play with their cards close to their chests
as part of the negotiating process. “It depends on who you have in
front of you,” she explained. “Some people like negotiating as a
game.”
7
- Rates are not increasing...
“There's
been a shift towards worldwide buy-outs but fees are no longer as big
as they used to be,” explained MassiveMusic's Brouwer. Big brands
can still pay big fees, especially for worldwide campaigns, but in
most cases prices are eroded, not least because there tends to be
more placements per projects for more or less the same budgets. “Fees
are not the same any more,” said White Horse Music's Lefkeli. “Yes,
there are more fees, but these are lower fees. But it depends on the
copyright. If have a big copyright, [clients] will pay the big fee.”
8
- ...but there are more synchs opportunities
But
on the other hand, the number of projects is growing, in particular
thanks to an explosion of online channels that require a lot of
synchs. “Our clients need more rights than before,” said White
Horse Music's Lefkeli. “We try to license upfront a bigger
packaging [of rights] so that there is more flexibility for the
clients.”
Microsoft's
Hopkins also noted that in the video game sphere, there's even more
synchs now in games than before. “I am doing five time as many
synchs as I was five years ago,” he revealed. “So my partners [in
the music business] know that if I have a small budget for a campaign
and it is not going to them, there will be another one very soon. And
nothing is off limit with regards to the projects I am working on.
Music can be from indie publishers, major publishers, unsigned bands,
etc.”
9
- Always deliver quality...
Key
rule to keep your clients happy: don't mess up with quality, be it
quality of the song, quality of the recording, quality of the digital
files. MassiveMusic's Brouwer commented: “You always have to
deliver quality. If you don't, as a company, you are gone. If they
call you, you should deliver on time.” And don't overload music
supervisors with too much material. “Give 4 or five killer songs.
Not 30 or 40!” advised Imagem's Baldwin.
10
- ...and respect deadlines, or else!
Again, what matters is to deliver and deliver on time, and that means doing it at all levels of the process, from the commissioning or pitching to the agreements and the signing of contracts to the final delivery of the digital files. Microsoft's Hopkins put it very bluntly: "Video developers have deadlines that they have to meet and are not interested in the situations [linked to negotiating syncs], but I also need to keep the publishers happy." Bottom line for Hopkins: "[People] need answers and it needs to be done on time."
Again, what matters is to deliver and deliver on time, and that means doing it at all levels of the process, from the commissioning or pitching to the agreements and the signing of contracts to the final delivery of the digital files. Microsoft's Hopkins put it very bluntly: "Video developers have deadlines that they have to meet and are not interested in the situations [linked to negotiating syncs], but I also need to keep the publishers happy." Bottom line for Hopkins: "[People] need answers and it needs to be done on time."
[Typed while listening to
Danish collective Den Sorte Skole, whose performance at c/o pop was
simply exceptional. Their music – which has not been commercially
released due to clearance issues – can be downloaded there for
free.]
[This is my 100th post since I started this blog a few years ago. It's been a great experience -- what a thrill when you notice that you have readers as far as Mongolia or Chile! -- and I am looking forward to the next 100. Thanks to all the readers.]
[This is my 100th post since I started this blog a few years ago. It's been a great experience -- what a thrill when you notice that you have readers as far as Mongolia or Chile! -- and I am looking forward to the next 100. Thanks to all the readers.]
More on synch:
Synchs (part 1): Understanding the Hollywood market
Synchs (part 2): Ten tips for a successful business
Dear Mr Legrand,
ReplyDeleteMy name is Marion Duchemin and I am a French student in project management. I am currently writing my master’s degree’s final paper on music publishing.
During my researches I found your blog that helped me much to get insights on the industry and get to understand its stakes and challenges. I am trying to inquire on how the music publishing industry quite steadily grew while the recording industry (that represented a vast part of the publishers’ revenue through mechanical royalties) was on the downfall. My goal is to try to highlights the promising areas for publishers in terms of revenue streams for the future.
Would you be so kind as to answer some questions I have for you? I think your background and obvious expertise on the music industry would be of great help for me to get a clearer vision of it. Since I have not found any email address, I post this here, hoping it will reach you.
My questions would be the followings, sorted by topics:
Revenue streams
- From what I have found so far, it seems that synchronization and performance royalties will become more and more important in the future. Do you think that any of them will become the biggest part of music publishers’ revenue? (even though this very article observes that rates on synch go down)
- Or, in your opinion, will major publishers’ (namely UMP, Sony/ATV, Warner/Chappell) revenue streams rather diversify, going further into the “pennies business” (Martin Bandier’s expression) logic?
- I find very interesting the remark on Daft Punk’s strategy regarding placements. Do you think the biggest rule is: when you are small, use synch to make you grow and when you are big, wait until the sales go down to start synch licensing? Or do you think there is more to it?
A&R
- What is your view on the strategic role of A&R for major publishers today? Has it become more or less important? Do you think they should invest more on A&R or change the way they manage it?
- What about back catalogs? I have read many times that signing new promising artists help to “revive” the publisher’s back catalogs. But former ATV CEO Dale Kawashima told me that it was rather the other way around: great back catalogs finance new artists signing. What is your view on that?
- In your opinion do major publishers face the same challenges as smaller publishers that might be more specialized in one kind of music and/or revenue streams (I know some publishers solely focus on synch for instance) ?
Digital channels
- What do you think is the biggest challenge brought by digital channels of music distribution (apart from piracy)?
- Do you think there will be a single type of licensing between publishers and digital channels such as Spotify or YouTube ?
- What about the difficulty of regulating the vast diversity of usage (streaming, subscribing, downloading, burning, ripping…)?
Of course, feel free to skip or add parts,
Thank you very much for you time,
Looking forward to reading you,
Best,
Marion Duchemin
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